The Rural Patriot

October 12, 2006

The Third Debate

Filed under: 2006 Campaigns,Eric Massa,New York State,Randy Kuhl — theruralpatriot @ 4:05 pm

I have to rely on others’ accountings as I was not there for the event. As of this writing, sources are scarce. I will add to this report if other reports become available.

Bathos – Part 1 and Bathos Number Two

The League of Women Voters is a non-partisan, “good government” organization that sponsors debates and lobbies to make sure the voting process is fair. That usually means that their events are tedious and hyper-informative, over-scrupulously fair and mind-numbingly dull. Last night’s debate in Bath was all of these things and more — it displayed the best and worst of the League and the candidates.

Kuhl, Massa clash in third debate

During the 1.5-hour frequently combative debate, the men fielded a number of questions also asked during the past week including jobs and the economy, the war in Iraq, illegal immigration, energy consumption and universal health care.Other issues included the rights of suspected terrorists, military spending, social security reform and late-night passage of federal bills.

 NY-29: Kuhl loses his cool over torture  (An account by Eric Massa)

But during last night’s debate Randy simply lost his cool. It came during his answer to a question about torture. As usual, Rubber Stamp Randy was repeating the Republican talking points. The audience wasn’t buying his defense of torture and Kuhl tried to play the fear card and screamed at the audience “These are people who want to kill you! Who want to kill you!” (video) He had another outburst later when discussing the cost of single payer health care. He also said to me “If you had ever been in Iraq you’d know how hot it is.” He actually accused me of not having served in the Middle East. The audience found that rather humorous and I set the record straight.



  1. I was there. Eric Massa clearly won this debate, and had a standing ovation from the audience at the end. The church was packed at a extimated 300 people. Randy was surrounded by about 15 supporters at the end and the rest of the crowd surrounded Eric Massa. This was in Randy Kuhl’s backyard. The town he grew up in. One would have thought that the whole area would have showed up for Mr Kuhl. Do his supporters not care, or have they become fed up with him and what is happening in Washington. Eric Massa’s message is that Washington is out of touch with the rest of us. It is entirely possible that Eric Massa and the “Band of Brothers” (Military Vets running for Congress) may turn Washington up side down. This country needs that if it is to remain a democracy as we know it!

    Comment by LV Veteran — October 12, 2006 @ 5:43 pm | Reply

  2. Look, this is all interesting but still bravado. The incumbent is going to win this one—though you’ve got to take your hat off to Massa for making such a determined run and for getting people talking.

    Comment by penn yan pepper — October 13, 2006 @ 1:18 am | Reply

  3. I really can’t tell you who is going to win this race. We will know on the evening of November 7. But one thing is for sure – it is an interesting race to watch and track. There hasn’t been this much interest in a congressional race in this district for a very long time, and it has also caught national attention. I, too, take my hat off to Mr. Massa – he has been campaigning for this position since the day after the 2004 election.

    Comment by theruralpatriot — October 13, 2006 @ 5:43 pm | Reply

  4. bravado – 1 a: blustering swaggering conduct b: a pretense of bravery. 2: the quality or state of being foolhardy.

    I will have to wait till election day as my crystal ball does not work this time of year.

    Comment by LV Veteran — October 14, 2006 @ 11:08 pm | Reply

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